What do you guys think bout 2012?

Leonal · Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:07 am Post subject: What do you guys think bout 2012?

Well I was watching a few movies associated with Doomsday and 2012 came into my mind, In my opinion I think it's a load of bull and will be the same as Y2K and the other predictions before it. What do you think?

Gyldan · Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:29 am Post subject:

I think it's a load of crap, that's all it. =D

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A wise man once pointed something out to me. Dates as we know them have absolutely no meaning beyond what we assign to it. For example, the Universe does not care whether we call this year 2009 or 742479 or The Year of the Sade. The Universe does not care about the ancient Mayan's calender, when it began or when it ends.
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Andifferous · Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:36 am Post subject:

I've got to agree, the 2012 apocalypse is a load.

Although the celestial great alignment happens then, it's not really of any particular importance; it happens only once every 20,000 years or so, and really it's more of an astronomical reference point. (They chose it as their starting point for their map ofthe stars' movements.) It's like how everyone used to panic and freak out every time there was a solar eclipse.

What we DO need to be a bit worried about is April 13, 2029, when the asteroid 99942 Apophis will pass within 20,000 miles of the earth. (that's closer than most communication satellites, and easily visible to the naked eye. It's not supposed to hit us on it's current course, but there is always the chance of someone messing with it's trajectory.

It's also supposed to make another pass in 2036, during which there is a very slim chance that it will hit us on its own.

So yeah, I'm a bit of a space geek, in case you haven't figured that out Very Happy

Jackie Haystack · Spy Joined: 23 Jul 2009 Posts: 165

Well. I'm not exactly an expert on the whole 'we're doomed' thing, which is surprising considering how morbid the subject is. But yeah, the world's not gonna end on a calender, it's going via the big red button if anything if we wanted to have an event that could go at any second. After all, it's only like what?.... twenty odd nukes and we've got a nuclear winter with large tracts of land unusable, and trust me, you don't survive a nuclear winter at all.
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Sade · Rogue Joined: 23 Jul 2009 Posts: 63

Yes, well, luckily we appear to have stepped back from that particular brink. The only likely nuclear event at the moment would be a terrorist attack with only local damage or a nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan or North Korea and its neighbors, causing regional damage.

Apophis does worry me a little.

EDIT: After reading the wikipedia article on nuclear winter, I'm somewhat more concerned.
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Jackie Haystack · Spy Joined: 23 Jul 2009 Posts: 165

Yeah, for some reason most people think the nuclear apocolypse would only massively change the planet and effect us radiation wise, it would kill us.
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JustinG · Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:50 pm Post subject:

The entire math behind nuclear winters is theoretical at best.

Frankly, I'd be more concerned about volcanoes freezing the earth before we nuke ourselves into the fimbulvetr. On an interesting note, when volcanoes erupt, they produce a lot more carbon than humans do in a very lengthy amount of time...

Anyways, I'm getting sidetracked - although, was I ever on a track?

Interestingly enough, I remember that years ago people thought nukes would cause global warming and fry us all. Now it's nuclear winters.....
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Saito · Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:34 pm Post subject:

Pff. It's a load of bull indeed. And I can't wait to see the face of every naysayer when that day passes calmly.

Which will give me bragging rights for probably years upon years as their bullshit spread for years on end.

And next thing you know, we get shirts like, "I survived the so-called "Apocalypse" that actually was the only thing being my wife." ...Or something. *shrug*
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Dusk · Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:49 pm Post subject:

I have to agree. The Aztecs were smart and have made a lot of good predictions that came true. But I really don't think the world will end on 2012. It just seems like to big of a thing to come true.
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Leonal · Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:12 pm Post subject:

I actually don't think they even made a prediction on that date, it's just that the Mayan calender ends on that date my theory is They didn't want to go any furhter and wanted to stop on one date like any other calender too I can point at December 31s 2009 on my calender and say it's the end of the world cause the manufacturer said so...

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I've read a bit on the Maya. What they seem to actually believe about their calendar was that history was cyclical, that the end of every "cycle" of time was accompanied by great cataclysms and changes. The larger the cycle, the greater the cataclysm.

So, maybe a more correct translation would be "the end of the world as we know it."

Still potentially frightening, but not as deadly. After all, it's already happened. Compare life now to that of the Mayas, or even to that of a century ago.

That, I think, has a better chance of happening.
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Dusk · Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:06 pm Post subject:

Yes that does seem a lot more likely

But when you think about it, there is many different things that "as we know it"could mean. It could be extreme, like the apocolypse would still be as we know it. Or something like anthros will finally emerge and join us humans (murr) . That would still be "as we know it"
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RabidFox · Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:23 pm Post subject: